Sniper Support Question - Guild Wars Forums

imnotyourmother · Apr 16, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55

OK I have no idea where this belongs. I know that it is a skill un Eye of the North but it did not look like it belongs there. I then looked at Builds and found that the professions were listed but not specific skills associated with "titles".

So my question is...

Can a Warrior use this skill?
Piercing damage is the type of physical damage inflicted by most bows and spears, as well as many daggers and pets and several axes and hammers.

Sniper support does Piercing damage, so maybe you have to use an axe to use it????? I'm not really sure.

Can I still run my war necro secondary?

Lonesamurai · Apr 16, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support

Spell. Target foe is struck for 54...90 piercing damage and begins Bleeding for 5...25 seconds. This attack has a 10% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage. If this attack hits a Charr it has a 25% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage.

Concise description

Spell. Deals 54...90 piercing damage and inflicts Bleeding condition (5...25 seconds). 10% chance of +540...900 piercing damage. 25% chance of +540...900 piercing damage if target foe is a Charr.

Notes

This is the only Spell that inflicts physical damage.
This can be one of the most effective skills for killing Charr bosses, as it can finish a boss off in 1 hit.
When you successfully inflict the additional damage, one of a number of quotes appears in the chat log:
- Balthazar bless my strength, teach my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
- I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear.
- One arrow one kill.
- Snap! Headshot!

Basically, it has nothing to do with your class, nor what you are running,the only thing you need is levels in the Ebon Vanguard Title

imnotyourmother · Apr 16, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12

NICE!

This will be great for my war!!

lewis91 · Apr 16, 2009, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Basically its a PVE skill, theres alot in EoTN available that any proffession can use, obviously warriors are more limited by energy that others. But sniper support will work on your warrior, and its pimpingly awesome against actual char. Against anything else, it isnt too great, unless you have amazing luck.

Tharg · Apr 16, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34

I run it on my Discordway setup (for my monk and my ele):
Assassin's Promise, YMLAD, Sniper Support, Finish Him - repeat...

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 16, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23

make sure to look for the quotes the sniper makes when he hits for 900 =D they are the best ;-) one of the most amusing skills in the game =) also, there is a Q&A thread on the forums somewhere. this would be more appropriate if posted there ;-) for future reference =)

Lonesamurai · Apr 16, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

make sure to look for the quotes the sniper makes when he hits for 900 =D they are the best ;-) one of the most amusing skills in the game =)

Trivia

"Snap! Headshot!" is most likely a reference to FPS-Doug's "Boom Headshot!!"
"One arrow one kill." is most likely a reference to the phrase "One shot, one kill" which has gained notoriety in movies as a glorification of the "sniper mystique". The phrase refers to sniper tactics which make use of both stealth and efficiency to eliminate an important target using one shot although whether this reflects the reality of sniping is subject to debate.
"Balthazar bless my strength, teach my hands to war, and my fingers to fight" is a reference to Psalm 144: "Blessed be the Lord, my strength, who teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight."
"I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear." is a quotation from the movie Enemy at the Gates, a World War II movie about snipers in the Battle of Stalingrad.
This could also be a reference to the movie Saving Private Ryan, in which Private Daniel Jackson recites lines similar to these while providing sniper support.

Archress Shayleigh · Apr 16, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support

Spell. Target foe is struck for 54...90 piercing damage and begins Bleeding for 5...25 seconds. This attack has a 10% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage. If this attack hits a Charr it has a 25% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage.

Concise description

Spell. Deals 54...90 piercing damage and inflicts Bleeding condition (5...25 seconds). 10% chance of +540...900 piercing damage. 25% chance of +540...900 piercing damage if target foe is a Charr.

Notes

This is the only Spell that inflicts physical damage.
This can be one of the most effective skills for killing Charr bosses, as it can finish a boss off in 1 hit.
When you successfully inflict the additional damage, one of a number of quotes appears in the chat log:
- Balthazar bless my strength, teach my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
- I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear.
- One arrow one kill.
- Snap! Headshot!

Basically, it has nothing to do with your class, nor what you are running,the only thing you need is levels in the Ebon Vanguard Title

All there. Also you can wiki it.

Lonesamurai · Apr 16, 2009, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh

All there. Also you can wiki it.

all that is is a copy/paste of the wiki... cos I'm lazy

Lourens · Apr 16, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Its basicly a sniper you can't see sitting on the mountain right behind you *Boom Headshot*.

Skyy High · Apr 16, 2009, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

NICE!

This will be great for my war!!

No it won't. 10 energy for a very rare (10% on most enemies) one hit kill, and much more often (read: every time you need it most) tiny amount of damage and bleed is a waste for a warrior. [Finish Him!] does better damage, deep wound, cracked armor, and will basically kill anyone below 50% hp every time, all for the same energy, a faster recharge rate, and an instant cast time.

It's a lulzy skill when it works right, but most of the time it's a waste, and certainly not "great" on a character with 2 energy pips and no e-management.

*Darcy* · Apr 16, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Sniper Support is not that great as Skyy High said. A better PvE-only skill for your warrior is Light of Deldrimor. AoE for a warrior and, at r10 delver, you hit enemies in the area (aggro circle) for 80 each which softens them up nicely.

I forgot to mention that the damage (holy) doubles if you are fighting undead.

TheodenKing · Apr 16, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58

It is a "spell," so you can wield whatever you want, and you can be whatever prof you want.

Think of it this way... It isn't YOU performing the snipe. Rather, you are magically signalling your Ebon Vanguard buddies hiding in the trees, and they are firing arrows precisely into your target's weak spots.

Zahr Dalsk · Apr 16, 2009, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Sniper Support adds an element of fun chance into an otherwise boring and predictable game.

Skyy High · Apr 16, 2009, 11:11 PM // 23:11

If the game is boring and predictable, change your builds, do something that involves micromanagement (interrupts, a complex spike, etc), run a heroway team that uses something other than saabway, discordway, or 2 paras. Certainly, running this skill can be fun, because seeing 900 damage pop over an enemy's head is hilarious, but it's not because it's a random chance. If random chance were all it took for a rip-roaring good time, everyone would sit in town doing /roll 100. It's different, which can be fun, but different doesn't change the fact that it's a bad skill choice for a warrior.

Hengis · Apr 17, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42

"I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear."

The first time I saw this apprear in my chat window I almost had a fit thinking my PC was being hacked or that a mod was messing with my mind.. LOL, especially as almost all of my characters are called "(insert name) Stone"!

I've been having more fun lately with Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support coupled with Mark of Pain and Barbs though ^^

Taurean · Apr 24, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29

"One shot, one kill"

is also something that the Night elf archers in Warcraft 3 is saying when you order them to combat ^^

Eluvatar · Aug 18, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

sry about the bump but I had a question.

someone once told me useing mesmer skills you could make sniper support always hit with the 900 or some dmg and it used an elite and non elite mes skill. I didnt think that was true but if it was that would be sweet you guys know anything about that?

zelgadissan · Aug 18, 2009, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me, and if it's true, it's definitely a bug.

A mesmer elite and a mesmer non-elite sounds an awful lot like Echo and Arcane Echo to me, and that's definitely not true if that's the case since I've run that several times myself for fun.

Eluvatar · Aug 19, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24

ok I figured lol

Apr 16, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55	#1
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	Sniper Support Question OK I have no idea where this belongs. I know that it is a skill un Eye of the North but it did not look like it belongs there. I then looked at Builds and found that the professions were listed but not specific skills associated with "titles". So my question is... Can a Warrior use this skill? Piercing damage is the type of physical damage inflicted by most bows and spears, as well as many daggers and pets and several axes and hammers. Sniper support does Piercing damage, so maybe you have to use an axe to use it????? I'm not really sure. Can I still run my war necro secondary?

Apr 16, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#2
Lonesamurai Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cheltenham, Glos, UK Guild: Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS] Profession: R/A	Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support Spell. Target foe is struck for 54...90 piercing damage and begins Bleeding for 5...25 seconds. This attack has a 10% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage. If this attack hits a Charr it has a 25% chance of doing an additional +540...900 piercing damage. Concise description Spell. Deals 54...90 piercing damage and inflicts Bleeding condition (5...25 seconds). 10% chance of +540...900 piercing damage. 25% chance of +540...900 piercing damage if target foe is a Charr. Notes This is the only Spell that inflicts physical damage. This can be one of the most effective skills for killing Charr bosses, as it can finish a boss off in 1 hit. When you successfully inflict the additional damage, one of a number of quotes appears in the chat log: Balthazar bless my strength, teach my hands to war, and my fingers to fight. I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear. One arrow one kill. Snap! Headshot! Basically, it has nothing to do with your class, nor what you are running,the only thing you need is levels in the Ebon Vanguard Title

Apr 16, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#12
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Sniper Support is not that great as Skyy High said. A better PvE-only skill for your warrior is Light of Deldrimor. AoE for a warrior and, at r10 delver, you hit enemies in the area (aggro circle) for 80 each which softens them up nicely. I forgot to mention that the damage (holy) doubles if you are fighting undead. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Apr 16, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#3
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	NICE! This will be great for my war!!

Apr 16, 2009, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#4
lewis91 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wales Guild: Order of the Azurelight[OA] Profession: E/	Basically its a PVE skill, theres alot in EoTN available that any proffession can use, obviously warriors are more limited by energy that others. But sniper support will work on your warrior, and its pimpingly awesome against actual char. Against anything else, it isnt too great, unless you have amazing luck.

Apr 16, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#5
Tharg Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Guild: Omega Glory Profession: Mo/	I run it on my Discordway setup (for my monk and my ele): Assassin's Promise, YMLAD, Sniper Support, Finish Him - repeat...

Apr 16, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23	#6
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	make sure to look for the quotes the sniper makes when he hits for 900 =D they are the best ;-) one of the most amusing skills in the game =) also, there is a Q&A thread on the forums somewhere. this would be more appropriate if posted there ;-) for future reference =)

Apr 16, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#10
Lourens Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006	Its basicly a sniper you can't see sitting on the mountain right behind you Boom Headshot.

Apr 16, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58	#13
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	It is a "spell," so you can wield whatever you want, and you can be whatever prof you want. Think of it this way... It isn't YOU performing the snipe. Rather, you are magically signalling your Ebon Vanguard buddies hiding in the trees, and they are firing arrows precisely into your target's weak spots.

Apr 16, 2009, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#14
Zahr Dalsk Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada	Sniper Support adds an element of fun chance into an otherwise boring and predictable game.

Apr 16, 2009, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#15
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	If the game is boring and predictable, change your builds, do something that involves micromanagement (interrupts, a complex spike, etc), run a heroway team that uses something other than saabway, discordway, or 2 paras. Certainly, running this skill can be fun, because seeing 900 damage pop over an enemy's head is hilarious, but it's not because it's a random chance. If random chance were all it took for a rip-roaring good time, everyone would sit in town doing /roll 100. It's different, which can be fun, but different doesn't change the fact that it's a bad skill choice for a warrior.

Apr 17, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42	#16
Hengis Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London Guild: Better Than Life (BTL) Profession: R/	"I am a Stone. I do not move. I do not tremble. I have no fear." The first time I saw this apprear in my chat window I almost had a fit thinking my PC was being hacked or that a mod was messing with my mind.. LOL, especially as almost all of my characters are called "(insert name) Stone"! I've been having more fun lately with Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support coupled with Mark of Pain and Barbs though ^^

Apr 24, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29	#17
Taurean Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South of Norway - The land of Vikings Guild: I have no guild - Yet Profession: R/	"One shot, one kill" is also something that the Night elf archers in Warcraft 3 is saying when you order them to combat ^^

Aug 18, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#18
Eluvatar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MQSC Profession: E/	sry about the bump but I had a question. someone once told me useing mesmer skills you could make sniper support always hit with the 900 or some dmg and it used an elite and non elite mes skill. I didnt think that was true but if it was that would be sweet you guys know anything about that?

Aug 18, 2009, 10:56 PM // 22:56	#19
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Sounds like a bunch of crap to me, and if it's true, it's definitely a bug. A mesmer elite and a mesmer non-elite sounds an awful lot like Echo and Arcane Echo to me, and that's definitely not true if that's the case since I've run that several times myself for fun.

Aug 19, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24	#20
Eluvatar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MQSC Profession: E/	ok I figured lol